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Another apparently prefixed adverb that does not seem to lenite is bras (intensifieur): ur vro bras-ec'hon (G).
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--[[Utilisateur:Wade|Wade]] ([[Discussion utilisateur:Wade|discussion]]) 1 août 2016 à 14:57 (CEST), Milan Rezac: Another apparently prefixed adverb that does not seem to lenite is ''[[bras-]]'' (intensifieur): ur vro bras-ec'hon (G).
  
Cf. optional (not obligatory, as apparently above) nonlenition for modified & coordinated adjective, un vro bras hag uhel (Press) So: un vro bras-meurbet, un dra bras-abominapl (G), where the SUFFIX intensifier prevents the adjective from leniting.
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Cf. optional (not obligatory, as apparently above) nonlenition for adjectives in coordination: ''ur gazeg bihan ha glas'', ''ur waremm gouez'', ''kompez'' (Press) or with a complement, etc (Press, Favereau). It seems that [[intensifiers]] are among the factors that block lenition: ''un vro '''b'''ras-'''meurbet''''', ''un dra '''b'''ras-'''abominapl''''', ''ur vougev '''b'''ras-'''kenan''''' (G), where the SUFFIX intensifier prevents the adjective from leniting. In fact Favereau p. 152-3 explicitly gives this for ''un dra '''m'''at-'''tre''''' &c.
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--[[Utilisateur:Wade|Wade]] ([[Discussion utilisateur:Wade|discussion]]) 1 août 2016 à 18:55 (CEST)A parallel to the idea that ADV+ADJ fails to undergo [[lenition]] that ADJ alone would undergo: ''ken ADJ'', 'so ADJ' and comparative (equative) ''ken ADJ ha/...'': e.g. ''(n')em eus ket james gwelet tud ken bras'' (not: ''gen bras'', ''gen vras'', etc.) (see link below), or, ''ur vro ken paour'' (G: "ur vro ken"), ''un den ken sot-se'', ''ken sot ha Paolig'' (G: "un den ken"). PS -- under equative ''ken ADJ (ha)'' in ARBRES, I can only find instances as predicate, not as modifier (attribut).
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--Wade (discussion) 1 août 2016 à 14:57 (CEST), Milan Rezac: Another apparently prefixed adverb that does not seem to lenite is bras- (intensifieur): ur vro bras-ec'hon (G).

Cf. optional (not obligatory, as apparently above) nonlenition for adjectives in coordination: ur gazeg bihan ha glas, ur waremm gouez, kompez (Press) or with a complement, etc (Press, Favereau). It seems that intensifiers are among the factors that block lenition: un vro bras-meurbet, un dra bras-abominapl, ur vougev bras-kenan (G), where the SUFFIX intensifier prevents the adjective from leniting. In fact Favereau p. 152-3 explicitly gives this for un dra mat-tre &c.

--Wade (discussion) 1 août 2016 à 18:55 (CEST)A parallel to the idea that ADV+ADJ fails to undergo lenition that ADJ alone would undergo: ken ADJ, 'so ADJ' and comparative (equative) ken ADJ ha/...: e.g. (n')em eus ket james gwelet tud ken bras (not: gen bras, gen vras, etc.) (see link below), or, ur vro ken paour (G: "ur vro ken"), un den ken sot-se, ken sot ha Paolig (G: "un den ken"). PS -- under equative ken ADJ (ha) in ARBRES, I can only find instances as predicate, not as modifier (attribut).

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